Democracy within Grand Lodges.

Roy V (03/07/2009)

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No matter - perhaps in a smaller pond, the bigger fish need to be proved to be accepted by all the others, who are closer to being their peers.

The "bigger fish" need to get over themselves. The pool is only too small due to the size of their heads..

In UGLE, we are fairly distant, at the Lodge level, from the Rulers of the Craft, and don't usually care who has chosen them. Perhaps we place great reliance on the integrity of our "employers" these days?

That last sentence of yours captures the essence of the whole point of this thread.

"Freemasonry" in my humble opinion is not about the wants of individuals per se, nor is it about the imposition of the will of the few upon the many with enforced notions of "democracy", the dogma of "sexual equality", or the persecution and revilement of religions.

I have never met the members of UGLE executive, but I hear they are most pleasant, decent men and quite knowledgeable.

Perhaps they will continue, despite the concerted attempts at interference from outsiders.

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Terry	Posted 30/06/2009 21:59:54
Master Group: Forum Member Last Active: 08/01/2011 05:46:01 Posts: 586, Visits: 765 748	Bob Butler (30/06/2009) As I said on another thread Mark you are always going to come across a few looneys wherever you go I am not a big poster but like to read the posts made by others I have found your posts/thoughts on some of the threads very informative and interesting long may you continue to post bob I hope you don't mind Bob, but I would like to second what you have just posted Regards Terry Tamworth 652 Australia
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M Perrott	Posted 30/06/2009 22:01:44
Master Group: Forum Member Last Active: 21/12/2011 00:19:49 Posts: 339, Visits: 2,530 573	Thank you both. I am not going anywhere.:P:w00t:
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eastbeast	Posted 01/07/2009 12:28:40
Journeyman Group: Forum Member Last Active: 02/01/2012 13:21:38 Posts: 117, Visits: 594 187	M Perrott (30/06/2009) Thank you both. I am not going anywhere.:P:w00t: Does that include NZ?..... __________________________________________ U.G.L.E. Lodge of Perseverance 213 Norfolk. (An Atholl Lodge) Chapter of Perseverance 213 Norwich Conclave 478 OSM I've seen Mike's Balls.....
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M Perrott	Posted 01/07/2009 18:33:43
Master Group: Forum Member Last Active: 21/12/2011 00:19:49 Posts: 339, Visits: 2,530 573	eastbeast (01/07/2009) M Perrott (30/06/2009) Thank you both. I am not going anywhere.:P:w00t: Does that include NZ?..... Fortunately, no.
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eastbeast	Posted 02/07/2009 11:07:02
Journeyman Group: Forum Member Last Active: 02/01/2012 13:21:38 Posts: 117, Visits: 594 187	M Perrott (01/07/2009) eastbeast (01/07/2009) M Perrott (30/06/2009) Thank you both. I am not going anywhere.:P:w00t: Does that include NZ?..... Fortunately, no. I've heard some people say NZ is 'nowhere' too...:hehe: __________________________________________ U.G.L.E. Lodge of Perseverance 213 Norfolk. (An Atholl Lodge) Chapter of Perseverance 213 Norwich Conclave 478 OSM I've seen Mike's Balls.....
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M Perrott	Posted 02/07/2009 21:07:58
Master Group: Forum Member Last Active: 21/12/2011 00:19:49 Posts: 339, Visits: 2,530 573	eastbeast (02/07/2009) M Perrott (01/07/2009) eastbeast (01/07/2009) M Perrott (30/06/2009) Thank you both. I am not going anywhere.:P:w00t: Does that include NZ?..... Fortunately, no. I've heard some people say NZ is 'nowhere' too...:hehe: It is certainly somewhere. Far far away. But to be fair to the place, it has been home for my parents etc for over 30 years. Eastbourne was full.;)
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Keith	Posted 02/07/2009 23:39:54
Master Group: Forum Member Last Active: 29/01/2012 04:48:25 Posts: 411, Visits: 1,041 497	Now then eastbeast, don't you be disparaging too, you ain't been here have you? Ask RoyV who has! OK, Mark was here for a while and didn't like it, I've lived here most of my life and for me it's paradise. A damned cold paradise right now I must admit with road closures all over the place from snow and ice although the views are fantastic with the heavy snow low down on the mountains. And I see on the news that you are in a heatwave! Dreink lots of water, keep out of the sun as far as possible between 11am and 4pm, wear a good strong sunscreen - SPF30, a shirt and a widebrimmed hat TO get back to the topic of democracy, our Grand Master who holds the position for 2 years is voted on, each Lodge has a vote. Also our District GMs are elected by the Lodges in his District Keith PM. Waimarino 175 Kaimanawa 426 Waikato Lodge of Research 445 Taupo, New Zealand
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M Perrott	Posted 03/07/2009 13:36:12
Master Group: Forum Member Last Active: 21/12/2011 00:19:49 Posts: 339, Visits: 2,530 573	Keith (02/07/2009) TO get back to the topic of democracy, our Grand Master who holds the position for 2 years is voted on, each Lodge has a vote. Also our District GMs are elected by the Lodges in his District Thanks for that Keith. Do you feel you would be less of a Mason if your Lodge did not have the power to vote? Is the work in the Temple more special because of that empowerment? For those Lodges under Grand Lodges that are deemed " undemocratic", is the work less important and therefore less valid than those that give the vote to individual Lodges or individuals themselves? Or is "Democracy" or lack of it just another stick to beat non conformers with until there is uniformity to a common mediocrity, like the Borg?
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Roy V	Posted 03/07/2009 21:30:17
Past Master Group: Forum Member Last Active: Yesterday @ 13:42:01 Posts: 773, Visits: 1,439 993	??? No matter - perhaps in a smaller pond, the bigger fish need to be proved to be accepted by all the others, who are closer to being their peers. In UGLE, we are fairly distant, at the Lodge level, from the Rulers of the Craft, and don't usually care who has chosen them. Perhaps we place great reliance on the integrity of our "employers" these days? PM 5770 Middlesex
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M Perrott	Posted 04/07/2009 00:39:29
Master Group: Forum Member Last Active: 21/12/2011 00:19:49 Posts: 339, Visits: 2,530 573	Roy V (03/07/2009) ??? No matter - perhaps in a smaller pond, the bigger fish need to be proved to be accepted by all the others, who are closer to being their peers. The "bigger fish" need to get over themselves. The pool is only too small due to the size of their heads.. In UGLE, we are fairly distant, at the Lodge level, from the Rulers of the Craft, and don't usually care who has chosen them. Perhaps we place great reliance on the integrity of our "employers" these days? That last sentence of yours captures the essence of the whole point of this thread. "Freemasonry" in my humble opinion is not about the wants of individuals per se, nor is it about the imposition of the will of the few upon the many with enforced notions of "democracy", the dogma of "sexual equality", or the persecution and revilement of religions. I have never met the members of UGLE executive, but I hear they are most pleasant, decent men and quite knowledgeable. Perhaps they will continue, despite the concerted attempts at interference from outsiders.
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