I think quite a few people have had discussions with Peter about his often objectionable views about history, Grand Lodges and even the Supreme Council of the A&AR. And to be fair, I think he relished the confrontation for the most part.

I was referring to a specific group of individuals that took it upon themselves to aggressively bully him till he decided he could take no more.   

Perish the thought that I am attempting to prolong this type of discussion, but do these anonymous people speak?  If so, you could be, with the help of the police you claim to have involved, record and trace the callers.  In which case, job done.

However, if there is merely a ringing which proves to be a dead line when it is picked up, and the number is witheld, that is no different from the erstwhile cold calls to my own home number, and are caused by call centres dialling several numbers at once, and speaking only to the first to answer.  This can be prevented by registering with the TPS.

However, if the time of day is significant, maybe there are persons in the antipodes who have serious issues with you - in which case, surely international numbers can still be traced by the authorities.

With reference to Grand Secretary Clatworthy, any man who acts in Eastenders has a lot to answer for!  But notwithstanding the attacks on him by the insidious DI supporters, he has not run away, but reigns supreme as the face of a certain form of Freemasonry, albeit imitating a loon at times, sometimes referring to "normal" FM as a state of fact; but mostly we are discarded as "pretend" Masons, not of his world.

No-one has hounded him away as far as I have seen, and they are pretty vicious individuals on that forum.

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I have never seen any posts in support of that theory and if it was me that ws being told that i am wrong all the time then i would probably have left as well.

Seriously though, I have always got on well with Bro Peter Clatworthy of GLAE and although we have strongly disagreed on a couple of Masonic matters he is always welcome to post again on my Forum as I have always found him to be a courteous and well mannered man. He was not kicked off but left of his own free will and his account is still live.

They always speak, and ask for me by name "Brother Perrott" if I do not answer the phone. I usually don't, someone else does. If I do answer the phone second or third calling, the line goes dead. Number withheld. The Police will only take it further if the voice is threatening or abusive. It is sometimes male, sometimes female but never abusive or aggressive. The Police are involved in the other matters.

Thanks for that, I work with offshore and inland callcentres for my job, I know the drill. The patterns do not conform, and BT have confirmed that and that the callers are UK based.. They will not disclose which numbers are calling, at least to me.

The time of day is only significant due to the nuisance factor.

DI Forum? Not mentioned that place. It was not DI forumites that were attacking him, it was "masons". Some would say you get back what you give. In his case, I think his treatment was unjust. But then who am I?;)

Edit: Roy, you have taken my words out of context also.  I have said all along I do not hold any brief for that particular GL, Peter Cltworthy or his views. In fact I disagree with virtually everything he stands for. The point of mentioning him was on the level of tolerance and what happens to those that fall foul of the masonic forum clique "elite".

I did not intend to take any words in or out of context.  "Grand Sec" was mentioned in the context of being hounded off a forum - I have seen him attacked on a forum by outright nutcases, and he stands his ground.  But he has capitulated when faced with arguments on "home ground"?

As for context, the significance of "time of day" was merely to ask whether the people calling were from a different time zone, or felt so strongly they bothered to get up in the middle of the night themselves.  You have confirmed the latter.

Wilful misunderstanding only leads to prolonged arguments and then more acrimony, so I will end it here.

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So if I can ask you all not to discuss other Forums negatively here, or if you you must, take it to those Forums. I will have to start deleting posts that do so.