From what I've been told England may in the future become a full Province under the Irish.

regards
bob

This is likley to drag the original topic off, so a new topic should be started about "How Masonry is Managed  or Relationship between Craft and Appendant Orders in Different Jurisdictions/Countries" as that is what John Dee is actually asking.

I don't think this is dragging this far off topic really, as the discussion has developed into foreign bodies setting up in other territories, which was certainly on my mind when I started the topic.

Royal Order of Scotland and St Thomas of Acon are both bodies administered from one jurisdiction that operate on others "turf", as does Athelstan I think.

And don't forget that R&SM, Rose Croix and others were imported from abroad originally, before becoming sovereign orders in their own right.

I assume that as long as the relevant Grand Lodge does not

a - already control a version of the order or

b- object to it on fundamental grounds (eg the order not requiring a belief in a supreme being)

then the "foreign" order is allowed to operate/tolerated.

And if not, the the home Grand Lodge bans its members from joining.

Simon Evans LGR

WM 887

H 1016

Provincial Grand Inspector of Works (Warwickshire Mark)

also: RAM, R&SM, KT, St Thomas of Acon, Rose Croix, Red Cross of Constantine, Royal Order of Scotland, Order of the Secret Monitor.