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Janus
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Posted 02/05/2010 14:25:47
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I have not read books of Knight / Lomas. Are they any good?
The last of Mikes links above gives you a few sources for this connection. Given the variations in both legends according to various sources and the time of their appearance. I am still to be totally convinced myself, but find it an interesting path to explore. One has to consider the state of knowledge and views on Egyptian mythology in the early 18th century to really understand the influence that it might, or might not have had, on esoteric currents of the time, and on Freemasonry in particular.
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Keith
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Posted 03/05/2010 10:47:09
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The Hiramic Legend appeared in the late 1720s, the first reference was in Prichard's "Masonry Dissected" published in 1730. THere was an alternative Legend relating to the Sons of Noah in the Graham MS of 1726
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Posted 03/05/2010 11:22:28
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Janus (02/05/2010)
I have not read books of Knight / Lomas. Are they any good?
My personal opinion is that the books are terrible works of fiction.
That is only my personal opinion and when in the past I said that "They lie like cheap Japanese watch" I caused offence so I am not going to say that now.
Personally I would stare at wallpaper for a few hours.
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Posted 03/05/2010 11:51:11
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I found the books of Kinght and Lomas both interesting and helpful but like any such books there is a need to compare and contrast what they claim with the works of other authors.
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Posted 03/05/2010 12:03:22
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I found that the Knight / Lomas books were interesting to read, but had to be taken with a pinch of salt, some of their claims are way into the grasping at straws category! I also noted that in early chapters they mentioned that "Case A" is a possibility, and then in later chapters they use "Case A" as definite proof to make a claim about "Case B" and so on. Some of the research is very good and some quite shoddy.
I like the idea of the Hiramic legend being based around the story of Noah as mentioned by Keith, there is a fair amount of circumstantial evidence to give at least some credence to it.
Best wishes
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Janus
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Posted 03/05/2010 12:30:20
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dp (03/05/2010)
Janus (02/05/2010)
I have not read books of Knight / Lomas. Are they any good?
My personal opinion is that the books are terrible works of fiction.
That is only my personal opinion and when in the past I said that "They lie like cheap Japanese watch" I caused offence so I am not going to say that now.
Personally I would stare at wallpaper for a few hours.
I am a master watchmaker by profession and can only say that most Japanese watches made today does not deserve their bad reputation.
I have read alot of english stuff but I read mostly French masonic literature these days, and find it very refreshing.
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dp
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Posted 03/05/2010 12:37:54
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Actually I think I may have said Chinese rather than Japanese last time. Anyway, I don't want to cause offence to any watchmakers so I will stick with saying you get what you pay for and cheap watches may be not as good as expensive ones.
I have some very nice watches and they are not all great at keeping the time. Equally Lomas and Knight are not great at keeping to the facts, or great at researching them...
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Janus
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Posted 03/05/2010 13:03:18
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dp (03/05/2010)
Equally Lomas and Knight are not great at keeping to the facts, or great at researching them...
But they are probably great writers, given their popularity.
And the story of Noah is well worth taking into consideration as well, as Keith pointed out.
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Janus
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Posted 03/05/2010 13:51:03
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Here is an other link on the subject:
http://www.freemasons-freemasonry.com/MADHAVAN_HiramicLegend.html
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dp
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Posted 03/05/2010 16:58:24
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Thanks for the great link Janus,
As far as Knight and Lomas go I have read a few of their books and have a negative opinion of them for various reasons. However this is not a post on them...
Read the books, you may like them, you may not... :)
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