Masonic ?

Lauderdale

You seem to know the terms Souties, english speakers, or Rooinek, as the Afrikaaners call them. I was in the South African Army and was refered to as a Soutie. Those terms are not so common anymore, as the politics has changed. My great grandparents were from the UK. Scotland, Ayrshire. I went back in 1997, and would like my kids to see the United Kingdom.

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Free State Boer	Posted 21/02/2010 08:09:37
Apprentice Group: Forum Member Last Active: 21/01/2012 08:46:17 Posts: 105, Visits: 346 185	I was attending a Mark meeting at our Masonic Hall and after the meeting a few of the brethren decided to "clean" the place a bit. I saw among the Lodge furniture, a SOE pedistal, dated 1903. It read "Queens Lodge" and SOE, Sons of England. Does anybody have any info on the Sons of England, google also does not have much ? FSB ITNOTGAOTU
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lauderdale	Posted 21/02/2010 12:33:45
Past Master Group: Forum Member Last Active: 10/07/2011 06:43:06 Posts: 2,136, Visits: 4,278 2,476	Given the date could it possibly be a Fraternal Organisation set up for Roinecks and even Soutpiels (Souties) during the Boer War and have no direct connnection to Freemasonry as such, although they may well have had Passwords, Signs etc?
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Andy Mac	Posted 21/02/2010 14:57:04
Apprentice Group: Forum Member Last Active: 08/01/2012 16:22:41 Posts: 8, Visits: 36 13	lol having lived in SA for 11 years and done my National Service there these slang terms are familiar. It's funny to hear them again . . . Best, Andy.
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Mike Martin	Posted 21/02/2010 16:24:33
Past Master Group: Administrator Last Active: 4 hours ago Posts: 2,322, Visits: 11,823 2,785	I don't know if I'd agree that google doesn't have much as it appears to have all you could need: http://www.islandregister.com/1902sofengland.html http://www.flickr.com/photos/23885771@N03/3931650180/ http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=creator%3A%22Sons%20of%20England%20Benevolent%20Society%22 Mike Mersey Lodge No. 5434 Website The Freemasons'''' Grand Charity Website See my BALLS here
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lauderdale	Posted 21/02/2010 16:35:48
Past Master Group: Forum Member Last Active: 10/07/2011 06:43:06 Posts: 2,136, Visits: 4,278 2,476	So it was a Benevolent Society for English Ex-Pats. Since it used Masonic terminology and may well have modeled its Regalia, Structure etc on Freemasonry, would it be what is described by UGLE as "An Organisation imitative of Freemasonry?" I wonder if there were many people who were in both Freemasonry and S.O.E.?
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Free State Boer	Posted 21/02/2010 18:21:13
Apprentice Group: Forum Member Last Active: 21/01/2012 08:46:17 Posts: 105, Visits: 346 185	Thanks Mike for the links, I only found one of them. It seems there must have been both SOE members and Masons in the area I live in, but sadly the SOE lodges ahve all closed. Do they still function in England. FSB ITNOTGAOTU
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lauderdale	Posted 21/02/2010 18:24:57
Past Master Group: Forum Member Last Active: 10/07/2011 06:43:06 Posts: 2,136, Visits: 4,278 2,476	I can't say I have ever heard of them before today to be honest
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Free State Boer	Posted 21/02/2010 18:25:38
Apprentice Group: Forum Member Last Active: 21/01/2012 08:46:17 Posts: 105, Visits: 346 185	Lauderdale You seem to know the terms Souties, english speakers, or Rooinek, as the Afrikaaners call them. I was in the South African Army and was refered to as a Soutie. Those terms are not so common anymore, as the politics has changed. My great grandparents were from the UK. Scotland, Ayrshire. I went back in 1997, and would like my kids to see the United Kingdom. FSB I see myself as a boer ITNOTGAOTU
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lauderdale	Posted 21/02/2010 18:33:13
Past Master Group: Forum Member Last Active: 10/07/2011 06:43:06 Posts: 2,136, Visits: 4,278 2,476	I have some South African friends so I pick up a bit of the lingo including some terms I would never be able to use on this Forum!
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Free State Boer	Posted 21/02/2010 18:49:34
Apprentice Group: Forum Member Last Active: 21/01/2012 08:46:17 Posts: 105, Visits: 346 185	Nice, do you ever attend South Afica Lodge in London ? I have some brothers in there. FSB ITNOTGAOTU
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