LDH terminology compared to that of UGLE

Following on from another thread where the term GLE, (Grand Lodge Eternal) was queried as UGLE calls it the GLA (Grand Lodge Above) I thought I would produce a quick Glossary. This is not exhaustive and I apologise if there are any errors. It may however be of assistance to Brethren who are puzzled by the differences in terminology.

LDH UGLE

RWM WM

WSW SW

WJW JW

Orator Chaplin

Outer Guard Tyler

Charter Warrant

Widow's Trunk Broken Column

A&ASR A&AR

MPGC no equivalent in UGLE

(Head of an LDH Federation)

no equivalent in LDH PGM

GLE GLA

HGW (Hearty Good Wishes) Sincerely and Fraternally

Piece of Architecture (POA) A paper presented in Lodge

Apply for an Increase in Wages No equivalent in UGLE (AFAIK)

(When the Candidate is ready and

wishes to progress to the next Degree)

Volume of the Sacred Lore Volume of the Sacred Law

Cover the Temple Leave the "Lodge Room"

There are no doubt others and I will update if I find any. Likewise if anyone can think of a word or phrase that differs please add it.

I hope this is of assistance to Brethren.

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lauderdale	Posted 01/02/2010 09:37:14
Past Master Group: Forum Member Last Active: 10/07/2011 06:43:06 Posts: 2,122, Visits: 4,278 5,506	Following on from another thread where the term GLE, (Grand Lodge Eternal) was queried as UGLE calls it the GLA (Grand Lodge Above) I thought I would produce a quick Glossary. This is not exhaustive and I apologise if there are any errors. It may however be of assistance to Brethren who are puzzled by the differences in terminology. LDH UGLE RWM WM WSW SW WJW JW Orator Chaplin Outer Guard Tyler Charter Warrant Widow's Trunk Broken Column A&ASR A&AR MPGC no equivalent in UGLE (Head of an LDH Federation) no equivalent in LDH PGM GLE GLA HGW (Hearty Good Wishes) Sincerely and Fraternally Piece of Architecture (POA) A paper presented in Lodge Apply for an Increase in Wages No equivalent in UGLE (AFAIK) (When the Candidate is ready and wishes to progress to the next Degree) Volume of the Sacred Lore Volume of the Sacred Law Cover the Temple Leave the "Lodge Room" There are no doubt others and I will update if I find any. Likewise if anyone can think of a word or phrase that differs please add it. I hope this is of assistance to Brethren.
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gsudron	Posted 01/02/2010 10:43:18
Fellow Group: Forum Member Last Active: Yesterday @ 13:10:57 Posts: 117, Visits: 5,184 758	Where does the Hearty Good Wishes come from? It's a nice little phrase and I was wondering if you knew how/why it was adopted by LDH. Guy 7786, 9263, 8859 UGLE 946 GL-BFG 6664, 9263 RAC 54 MMM, 54 RAM 246 OSM 47 Scarlet Cord 168 RCC 1096 AaAR ROoS PGL Beds & Northants, S Counties 185 AMD 226 R&SM
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lauderdale	Posted 01/02/2010 10:47:51
Past Master Group: Forum Member Last Active: 10/07/2011 06:43:06 Posts: 2,122, Visits: 4,278 5,506	Bro Guy, nice to hear from you again. I am not sure but will ask around. We tend to put it at the end of messages and letters much as others may put S&F.
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sojourner	Posted 01/02/2010 12:01:16
Past Master Group: Forum Member Last Active: Yesterday @ 21:40:24 Posts: 967, Visits: 7,770 5,737	Bro. Lauderdale, There seems to be many similarities with the terminology used in Scotland. They also have Bible Bearer, Lodge Jeweler, Provincial Bard, Lodge/Provincial Piper. Roy L. "SELUME PROFERRE"
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lauderdale	Posted 01/02/2010 12:03:57
Past Master Group: Forum Member Last Active: 10/07/2011 06:43:06 Posts: 2,122, Visits: 4,278 5,506	Yes, I have always thought that myself. The Scots and the French have historical ties e.g. The Auld Alliance.
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Cora B	Posted 01/02/2010 12:25:29
Master Group: On Warning Last Active: 22/03/2011 14:46:10 Posts: 418, Visits: 1,071 1,133	"With hearty good wishes" actually comes from a UGLE book on masonic etiquette (1920s, I think). I'd need to dig it out - will be some time. There are a fair few parallels with GLoS practices. Our Scottish Lodge works the standard Scottish Working, for example, and our Exc.M. & Exaltation ceremonies including the Ceremony of P. the V...s. Steve, is there a UGLE equivalent for the Bag of Propositions or is that universal? h.g.w., Cora -- International Order of Co-Freemasonry "Le Droit Humain", British Federation Lodge Light of Amen-Ra No. 717, Orient of Surbiton Lodge St Francis No. 817, Orient of Camberley Mark Lodge Nephthys No. 32, Quarries of Surbiton HRA Triangle The Hidden Glory, Vault of Surbiton
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lauderdale	Posted 01/02/2010 12:48:18
Past Master Group: Forum Member Last Active: 10/07/2011 06:43:06 Posts: 2,122, Visits: 4,278 5,506	No. The various matters to be considered are announced by the Secretary at the Risings. Grand Lodge at the 1st, Province at the 2nd and Ordinary Lodge Matters at the 3rd Rising. The Candidates for Passing and Raising do not Apply for an Increase in Wages in UGLE lodges and usually they are told by the Secretary when they are likely to be Passed or Raised according to the Lodge programme.
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Cora B	Posted 01/02/2010 12:51:38
Master Group: On Warning Last Active: 22/03/2011 14:46:10 Posts: 418, Visits: 1,071 1,133	Ah, okay - I suppose that is a continental thing then. h.g.w., Cora -- International Order of Co-Freemasonry "Le Droit Humain", British Federation Lodge Light of Amen-Ra No. 717, Orient of Surbiton Lodge St Francis No. 817, Orient of Camberley Mark Lodge Nephthys No. 32, Quarries of Surbiton HRA Triangle The Hidden Glory, Vault of Surbiton
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DHS	Posted 01/02/2010 13:09:34
Fellow Group: Forum Member Last Active: 15/05/2012 16:04:47 Posts: 198, Visits: 1,146 867	Lauderdale (01/02/2010) Following on from another thread where the term GLE, (Grand Lodge Eternal) was queried as UGLE calls it the GLA (Grand Lodge Above) I thought I would produce a quick Glossary. This is not exhaustive and I apologise if there are any errors. It may however be of assistance to Brethren who are puzzled by the differences in terminology. LDH UGLE GLoS RWM WM RWM WSW SW WSW WJW JW WJW Orator Chaplin Chaplain Outer Guard Tyler Outer Guard or Tyler Charter Warrant Charter Widow's TrunkBroken Column ? A&ASR A&AR ? MPGCno equivalent in UGLE ? (Head ofan LDH Federation) no equivalent in LDH PGM PGM GLE GLA GLA HGW (Hearty Good Wishes) Sincerely and Fraternally S&F Piece of Architecture (POA) A paper presented in Lodge Masonic Lecture Apply for an Increase in Wages No equivalent in UGLE (AFAIK) Made progress in the science (When the Candidate is ready and wishes to progress to the next Degree) There are no doubt others and I will update if I find any. Likewise if anyone can think of a word or phrase that differs please add it. I hope this is of assistance to Brethren. Have added those few GLoS equivalents which I know and ? where I don't know. Sorry if the table isn't quite as clear as it started.
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JamesB	Posted 01/02/2010 13:46:12
Apprentice Group: Forum Member Last Active: Yesterday @ 14:57:04 Posts: 59, Visits: 1,404 467	Cora B (01/02/2010) "With hearty good wishes" actually comes from a UGLE book on masonic etiquette (1920s, I think). I'd need to dig it out - will be some time., Bro Cora The earliest UGLE reference I have found is in The First Lecture. The Lectures provide an in depth look at the ceremonies and were derived I believe from Preston's Lectures. The candidate is asked words to the effect " what do you bring with you" to which he replies HGW. It is also in the ritual of the RoS. Both of these date from the late 1700s. I believe Preston compiled his Lectures from various rituals that were in use at that time. James
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